Messi faces tough test vs. Dutch, Neymar nears Pele's record: World Cup daily (2024)

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Dec 9, 2022, 03:37 AM

After a two-day pause, the World Cup returns to action on Friday as the quarterfinals kick off. Eight teams are left in the tournament, and there is no shortage of star power and intrigue. Regardless of who moves on to the semifinals, we certainly expect a high degree of drama and heartbreak!

Be sure to check in with ESPN throughout the tournament as we bring you the latest from Qatar. Here's what you might have missed from Thursday's World Cup happenings, and a look ahead to Friday's action.

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World Cup quarterfinals: Prepare yourself for heartbreak

As the World Cup progresses, each passing elimination becomes that much harder to stomach. Cinderellas return to scrubbing floors with no glass slipper or Golden Boot to show for their heroism that won the hearts of so many neutrals. Favorites slip up, blinded by the brightest spotlight in the sport. All the while, the tournament marches on without them.

On Friday, two teams' Qatari fairy tales will come to an end, and no one is going to be happy about it. After this two-day hiatus that followed the round of 16, the World Cup returns to action with the quarterfinals, with Croatia taking on Brazil and the Netherlands facing Argentina. Regardless of which of those four teams advance, there will be legions of football fans sobbing over the two who will be heading home.

Brazil are always, always, always the neutrals' favorites, and their eye-catching play and joyful demeanour in this tournament will have done nothing to change that. A defeat would take the wind out of the sails of fan zones up and down Qatar, and yet, a win would hardly be satisfying for so many fans of the game, as such a result would surely end the international career of legendary midfielder Luka Modric.

The 37-year-old Croatia captain has won everything there is to win in the club game with Real Madrid, and his individual achievements have been recognized by taking home the Ballon d'Or in 2018, but a World Cup final that year in Russia is the closest he has ever come to lifting silverware in the international game. One of modern football's true artists deserves more, don't you think?

If that's got you down, just wait until the late game. Are you ready for Lionel Messi to have played his last game in a World Cup should they fall to the Dutch? The 35-year-old has hinted that he won't partake in the 2026 edition, making this his last opportunity to finally win the one trophy that has eluded him throughout his illustrious career.

There won't be a dry eye at Lusail Stadium if it's confirmed that perhaps soccer's greatest ever will never have won its biggest trophy.

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And still, there's reason to root for the Dutch. Sure, their antics at South Africa 2010 made them a longstanding enemy of beautiful football, and the famous Arjen Robben penalty que no era won them few fans across North America, but there is a feel-good story in this team in the most unlikely of places: manager Louis van Gaal.

In April, the 71-year-old on his third stint in charge of the Netherlands announced that he has been battling an aggressive form of prostate cancer, something he'd been keeping not only from the public, but also his players, in an effort to keep their focus on qualification for Qatar 2022. Van Gaal has long had a reputation, known as the Iron Tulip and as mentor to Jose Mourinho, but at this tournament, he has become something of a celebrity, turning into a source of inspiration for his players and the object of affection from all corners of the sport.

This has been a welcome 48-hour respite from what's been the most nonstop World Cup in history, but with the quarterfinals looming, everyone is eager to get back to it and see their team move one step closer to the game's holy grail. Just spare a thought for everyone else who's going home instead.

As Pele backs Brazil, Neymar nears O Rei's record

A subplot to the quarterfinal match between Brazil and Croatia is whether Neymar surpasses Pele as the Seleção's all-time goal scorer for the men's national team.

Going into Friday's match, Neymar has 76 goals with the senior squad, one shy of Pele's record of 77 (which doesn't include goals from unofficial friendlies or against club teams). Having scored twice already at this World Cup, it's plausible that Neymar -- who missed two games because of an ankle injury -- could reach the tally as Brazil continue their incredible form in Qatar.

However, he has a long way to go before he can lay claim to hold the outright goal record for his country, with the legendary Marta scoring 171 goals and counting for the women's national team.

Pele's presence is always felt when Brazil takes the pitch, even if he is not physically in the stands. In fact, his absence looms even larger these days as the 82-year-old recovers in a Sao Paulo hospital from a respiratory infection. The three-time World Cup winner has also battled colon cancer, and was hospitalized last week to reevaluate his treatment. His daughters confirmed that he also had COVID-19 and a heart rate below normal.

Pele shared a heartfelt message via Instagram to the squad ahead of the 4-1 win over South Korea in the round of 16, with Neymar & Co. reciprocating the gesture by unveiling a banner of support following the game. And it's safe to say that Neymar will be ready to pay homage to O Rei if he does find the back of the net against Croatia.

Amid a campaign that has been defined by stellar midfield play and pressing prowess (and some joyous goal celebrations), Neymar surpassing Pele will be the capstone should Brazil win a sixth World Cup title.

Your best bets (odds via Caesars Sportsbook)

If you're looking to bet on the World Cup, ESPN contributors Paul Carr, Dan Thomas and Dalen Cuff are here to give you key tips on odds, options and futures. Here's what we have for the Friday's matches.

Netherlands (+260) vs. Argentina (+117), Draw (+210)

Paul Carr: Argentina has been a lot better than Netherlands at the tournament, with an expected goal difference of +6.6 compared to the Dutch at -0.1. There's some game state affecting those numbers, but Argentina is simply better at both ends. I'm wary of Louis van Gaal figuring out a way to slow down Lionel Messi and company, but 'll take Argentina to win in regulation at +117.

Daniel Thomas: Out of all of the quarterfinals I expect this one to be the ugliest. Neither side has particularly impressed thus far. I'd take the draw after 90 minutes.

Dalen Cuff: I think Argentina has not been impressive in this tournament. They've lacked creativity, dynamism and seem too Messi-dependent. The Dutch haven't been great either, but they have been clinical, with 10 shots on goal resulting in seven goals. I think this match is especially tight early. I'll take under 0.5 goals (+122) in the first half. I could see a draw after 90 minutes as well.

Croatia (+800) vs. Brazil (-280), Draw (+370)

Carr: I think we get goals in this one. Croatia and Japan could easily have been higher scoring than 1-1 in regulation, and (news flash) Brazil is better in the attack than Japan. If Croatia find a goal, this one should crack wide open with Brazil's pressure and Croatia's counterattack. If Brazil get one early, they'll likely keep pouring it on, looking for more. I like over 2.5 goals at -125.

Thomas: I think that the win over Japan will have left Croatia somewhat exhausted. Brazil on the other hand will be so fresh going into the game. This is an easy win for Brazil -- 3-0.

Cuff: I agree with Dan that Croatia, physically, are at a disadvantage given how each team's round-of-16 matches went. Croatia have only been scored on twice in the tournament but Belgium should have had at least three in that game. I think Brazil will get the first goal here, forcing Croatia to commit forward in the end and ultimately winning by two goals or more. I'm going to lay the spread with Brazil -1.5 goals (-105).

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News and notes

  • World Cup officials have launched a work safety investigation into the death of a Filipino man following reports that he died while working at a training site. Nasser Al Khater, chief executive of the 2022 World Cup, confirmed to Reuters that a worker had died, but gave no further details. He offered his condolences to his family and said "death is a natural part of life." Qatar's treatment of migrant workers has come under enormous scrutiny during the build-up to the tournament, with human rights groups accusing the Gulf state of systematic labour abuses.

  • Portugal's Football Federation has denied media reports that Cristiano Ronaldo threatened to leave the national team during the World Cup after coach Fernando Santos dropped the captain for their round-of-16 win over Switzerland. Ronaldo, Portugal's most-capped player and all-time top scorer, was benched for their first knockout game on Tuesday as they beat Switzerland 6-1, with his replacement Goncalo Ramos netting a hat trick.

  • Spain announced the departure of Luis Enrique as coach of the men's national team on Thursday following the team's shock penalty shootout defeat on Tuesday to Morocco in the round of 16, and named Luis de la Fuente has his replacement. De la Fuente, 61, guided Spain's under-19 side to a European Championship title in 2015 and led the under-21s to the same honour in 2019, while he was in charge of the team that won a silver medal at last year's Tokyo Olympics.

  • Raheem Sterling will rejoin England's World Cup squad in Qatar on Friday after flying home to deal with the fallout of a robbery at his house, the Football Association has confirmed. The 28-year-old left the camp Sunday morning following talks with manager Gareth Southgate after it emerged he had been the victim of at least one incident at his Surrey home.

Messi faces tough test vs. Dutch, Neymar nears Pele's record: World Cup daily (2024)

FAQs

Who is goat, Messi or Pele? ›

Even though Pele never played in Europe, he is considered one of its greatest players. When it comes to attaining major hardware, Pele has a total of 26 such honors, including being a six-time Brazilian champion. Messi has a total of 44 trophies in his whole career. That's a new world record.

What World Cup records has messi broken? ›

Messi has played the most minutes in World Cup history: 2,314. He broke Paolo Maldini's record of 2,217 minutes in the Qatar 2022 final.

How many world record did Messi break? ›

Guinness World Records - Lionel Messi has 41 Guinness World Records titles but Cristiano Ronaldo isn't far behind with 40 ⚽️ 🙌 | Facebook.

How many World Cups has Messi played so far? ›

Messi is one of only six men to have played in five World Cups alongside Antonio Carbajal, Lothar Matthaus, Rafa Marquez, Andres Guardado and Cristiano Ronaldo.

Who is the no. 1 goat in football? ›

Some of the biggest names in the sport have declared Lionel Messi as the GOAT – above Diego Maradona, Pele, and his great rival Cristiano Ronaldo.

Is Messi better or Neymar? ›

Who is the better player? Messi no doubt, but Neymar does come close, however not too close. Messi turns 35 this year and Neymar turns 30. Messi is in the twilight of his career while Neymar is in his prime.

Who has Messi lost to in the World Cup? ›

Eight years ago, Messi came close to the World Cup, dragging his team to the final in Brazil, only to lose to Germany in extra time.

Can Messi break Ronaldo's record? ›

Lionel Messi breaks Cristiano Ronaldo's record for most goals scored in Europe's top five leagues | Mint.

Did Ronaldo break a World Cup record? ›

Ronaldo holds the men's world record for most international goals with 120. He broke retired Iran striker Ali Daei's 109-goal record in 2021 and has scored eight goals since, including one at the World Cup last year that made him the first men's player to score at five separate World Cups.

What award has Messi not won? ›

In total, Messi has been nominated for the Puskas Award seven times and it has been five years since his last nomination, which came when he was still wearing the colours of Barcelona.

Who is better than Messi? ›

Manchester United star Cristiano Ronaldo is currently regarded as the fastest player in the world. He can now touch a speed of 33.6 KM/h while playing the beautiful game. On the other hand, PSG's Lionel Messi can touch a top speed of 32.5 KM/h.

How much older is Ronaldo than Messi? ›

The age difference between Ronaldo & Messi and their sons are exactly the same. Cristiano Ronaldo was born on February 5th 1985 whilst Messi was born on 24th June 1987, meaning there is a 869 days between when they were born.

How many World Cups did Pele play in? ›

Pele took part in four World Cups (1958, 1962, 1966 and 1970) and won three of them (1958, 1962 and 1970), making him the player with the most trophies.

How many World Cups does Neymar have? ›

He has been beneficial for his national side but is yet to win a Copa America or a World Cup with them. Throughout he has scored a total of 435 goals in 704 games played.

Is Messi the most famous person in the world? ›

🚨 Cristiano Ronaldo voted as “The Most Famous Person in the World” in an IG poll by Pubity. Fans chose him over Lionel Messi in the last round.

Who is better between Messi or Pele? ›

"He did amazing stuff. Messi does as well, but Pele was taller, stronger, a better header, he had more drive. He had much more than Messi," he said. "Messi is short, that doesn't stop him being a marvellous player, as Maradona was.

Who scored the most goals Pele or Messi? ›

List
RankPlayerTotal
1Cristiano Ronaldo895
2Lionel Messi*835
3Pelé*762
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Who's better, Pele or Maradona? ›

Pelé was a better player and had a significantly better carrer ( albein under very different context ) while both are what you could call old school number 10 or second forward Maradona was playing in a deeper role than Pelé and was more closer to a midfielder than Pelé who was more direct and goal…

Why is Messi called goat? ›

He has held the record for the most number of Ballon d'Or, with 7 wins. GOAT means 'Greatest of all time'. Because Messi has done so much, produced so many magic moments, won so many trophies, scored so many goals, he is called the GOAT, i.e. Greatest of all time.

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